On a recent Geeks Guide to the Galaxy podcast, I join guests Andrea Kail and Rajan Khanna, and host David Barr Kirtley to discuss the monumentally influential novel Dune, by Frank Herbert. This is my favorite work of science fiction, by far. Here’s an excerpt from our podcast:

“What I love about this book is that there are so many layers of manipulation—and Herbert speaks openly about this, the feints within feints within feints. Everybody is playing each other on multiple levels, even to the point that the Bene Gesserit might have been played by somebody else on an even bigger scale. … [Herbert] understands what really motivates people. In that dinner scene, every glance, every motion, where someone’s standing, it all has significance. Sometimes I’ll read a science fiction book and I’ll say, ‘Oh, that’s kind of ridiculous. I feel the author’s hand.’ But in Dune, there was never a moment where I thought, ‘Well, that’s ridiculous. That would never happen.’ He’s just an astute observer of human nature.”

You can listen to the entire podcast here.